frosch wrote:

You have to build banks and water towers on top of existing houses.

This has always been like that, and we never found a nice way to document it.

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mkyral wrote:

Thanks, it works that way. At least the error message is confusing. I think there should be something like: Only already existing house in the city could be adapted to a Bank.
Similar for a water town.

And the second think is, why is the cursor only 1x1 as there should be 2x1 for a Bank.

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PaulC wrote:

Is it possible to change this behaviour so that banks and water towers can be built anywhere in a town, not just on top of certain buildings?

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frosch wrote:

This is the traditional TTD behaviour. NewGRFs can change that. (Btw. it's not "certain" buildings, but any house)

Default TTD only knows these two town-related placement-types:
* Only allow building on top of houses (banks, water tower)
* Only allow building in proximity of the town sign (toy shop)

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mkyral wrote:

Btw. it's not "certain" buildings, but any house

It is not true. At least in the attached save, there is a city Udoli nad lesy where I'm not able to build a bank. I got messages: Unusable place or Has to be build in the city. Terrain is quite difficult and there are no houses that could be changed to a bank. It would help to have possibility do build a Bank on free place. Otherwise I have to wait for correct house build by city itself.

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frosch wrote:

You are not using the default bank. The bank available in that save is from "Total Town Replacement Set 3.13" (you can see the providing GRF by using the "questionmark"-tool on a build industry). You have to check that set about the requirements for its bank.
(NewGRFs can also supply detailed messages when construction of industries fails; but TTRS does not seem to do this.)

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mkyral wrote:

Aha, I see. Sorry for it, I'll check.

Thanks.

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PaulC wrote:

Frosch: I know it's the traditional behaviour, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be changed. Perhaps it is other factors (such as sloped land) that prevent industries from being built over some houses, in which case it would be a significant improvement if the error messages were less obscure. "Can only be built in towns" is not helpful if you are trying to build in a town, just not on top of an existing building(s); "Site unsuitable" is not helpful without knowing why.

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mkyral wrote:

I agree. Better error messages will help a much.

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frosch closed the ticket.

Reason for closing: Fixed

in r24040; though translators also will have to update messages

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